Saturday, 16 June 2007

Why we don't like Palace


Now that the first phase of the Dowie v Jordan case has been concluded there has been much written about the present relationship between the premier South London Clubs and the animosity that has been held between them. Two excellent blogs on the result of the legal case have been written by New York Addick and Addicks Premiership Diary .

Animosity has existed from Charlton fans towards Palace fans for some 22 years now, going back to the ground share. Prior to that Charlton fans reserved their local rivalry to Millwall. When I first started to go to the Valley, there was hardly a thought for Palace, who played in an awful maroon and blue stripped kit and had just pipped us to the top tier of English football, it was all about the Lions and the Den. In fact I quite liked the team managed by Bert Head. If it had not been that my dad pretended to support Palace I may well have ended up following my local team.

Most Palace fans who express an opinion don't understand why the Valley faithful so despise their club and probably there are only a small percentage of the current Charlton season ticket holders that really understand the reasons.

Simon Jordan and many fans do not understand how a group of fans whose club they saved are the opposite of grateful, hence the over use of the term moron towards Charlton fans, when we put Palace down.

Twenty two years on what Jordan and co do not understand or acknowledge is that Palace never had any intention of saving our club. Ron Noades and John Fryer, the Palace and Charlton Chairmen had a desire to amalgamate the two clubs, at Selhurst, and see the demise of Charlton in any form, whilst Palace would continue, albeit under a contrived name at their original home. Ron Noades set the rental at Selhurst at an exorbitant level, we were pauper tennants, with little or no money to develop our newly promoted team. What was expressed as a friendly partnership was no such thing, on the field of play, on the terraces or in the board room. At best Fryer had been manipulated by Noades to aid the destruction of the one club who offered real competition for the footballing voice of South London, at worst he was complicit.

Historically Palace are a club whose catchment area, whilst dipping into Kentish Bromley, spread south into Surrey and Charlton spread into Kent. It may have been easy for Dowie to make the journey from Norwood to Charlton but for the majority of fans in the mid 80's it was a public or private transport nightmare. Maybe if the ground share had been with say Gillingham, the relative ease for Kentish fans may have made the whole thing if not more acceptable, at least less painful. But it was not to be and season after season the few fans willing to make the journey had to slog from Kent and Charlton over to Norwood.

Palaces treatment of fans from their tennants was hardly likely to engender joy and harmony. I went to the first ever ground sharing match Charlton away to Palace, we were seated behind Palace standing fans in the Arthur Wait enclosure and were pelted with coins throughout the match, a few Charlton fans were able to avoid this by complaing to Croydons finest and being forcibly removed for their troubles. All this occurring to the chorus of "You're the shit of Selhurst Park" - very welcoming.

At a Full Members Cup game, again away at Selhurst, a match where there could not have been more than 5,000 fans between us, we were stuck in a pokey corner of the ground behind a floodlight pylon, with limited vision of the pitch (fortunate in some ways seeing as we lost). Whlist the remaining 3-4,000 palace fans had the luxury of the rest of the ground, presumably no aggrophobics attended the game on that day.

On the pitch, during one game the floodlights went out. Ok it may not have been done on purpose, but how many times in Palaces history has a game been halted because of electrical faults. As Lennie Lwrence said, it is hard to believe that this would have happened had it been Palace playing.

Despite Lennie wanting to train on the pitch, we were not allowed to, how many teams are refused permission to get the feel of the ground they are suppossed to call home - only Charlton.
Throughout our tenure Palace fans and club were arrogant and patronising towards us and it is the way we were treated at Selhurst that has led to the feelings of animosity towards Palace.

Of course there is no animosity coming in the other direction, Palace fans have no interest in Charlton, just in Brighton. Never do Palace fans come on to the Charlton message boards and sling insults our way and never does Simon Jordan antagonise Charlton fans with insults about them or their Chairman.

What worries me is that after 22 years the animosity of both clubs has grown, the worst violence I have seen in recent years between fans has been when we have played Palace, violence on both sides and this year there is a danger that it will spill over with Simon Jordans continued attack on Charltons Chairman and the Club as a whole.

22 years of animosity has been fuelled by an ill thought out ground sharing partnership, but instead of the wounds healing, fresh wounds are being inflicted and it is now that those in authority need to step back and ask themselves - Murray and Jordan in particular - are their public utterances really helpful to maintaining competitive but acceptable support for these two South London rivals?

Friday, 8 June 2007

Charlton Fans flounder, while Marcus Bent shines for the Addicks



Did anyone else watch the mayday for nurses progam last night on Channel 4. If you did not then a brief summary is that Dr Noreena Hertz pledged at the Nurses Union conference that she would get all Premiership Footballers to give up a days wages for the Nurses as a way of making a point to the Government of how poorly they have and continue to treat the nurses. May day for Nurses has a website giving details of who donated. Dr Hertz failed in her objective, she only got about half of them, but as we know they are a bunch of greedy so and so's, so even that was a pretty good achievment.

Fulham, Blackburn, Bolton and Reading come out of this really well, with most of the squad if not all contributing. Wigan and Chelsea poorly only one player at Wigan and non at Chelsea, although to be fair they did donate on behalf of the Club. From watching the program Man U came out looking god, but then you see that on Ryan Giggs and Gary Neville contributed , so that was a bit rich.

What about Charlton, the good solid and gritty core of the squad contributed, a total of 8 players including Marcus Bent - 7 Englishmen and an Icelandic international.

There is also a league table of fans who have contributed. Leading the way by almost 4,000 fans are Spurs, with 6,722 doners. In 11th place are Chelski - ok just cause the owner uses paper roubles to wipe his .... it does not mean the fans have loads of money and in 20th and bottom place are Charlton with only 370 fans, 60 below 19th Bolton and over 6000 fans less than Spurs. We can still donate now, its not too late.

Incidentally Dr Hertz is an economics academic who has written several books.given that pedigree, I wonder if our own outstanding blogger Wyn Grant could start his own campaign next year "Mayday for Charlton bloggers!"

Wednesday, 6 June 2007

The Grotesqueness that is the Premier League


OK, I admit it, I am a tad jealous of the teams that are in the 1st tier of English Football. So I have admitted that, but now the serious point.

As I was on the Bus today reading the Independent I was struck by an article on Rhys Weston, formerly of Arsenal and Cardiff, at 26 waiting for the phone to ring to resurrect his career. Weston as the article points out made his Arsenal debut with fellow debutant Ashley Cole and went to Lilleshall with Scott Parker. He's been on a fair wack, the Championship average earnings is £180,000 and last season he dropped to around £60,000. So should we feel sorry for him, probably not but he is an honest professional, he has done ok, till now and he'll probably get a new contract some where. But if you just look at whats happening above his level, into the 1st tier of English football, the world has gone mad................ again. Joey Barton a talented player with a temperament that would see him sharing a cell with his half brother, is moving to Newcastle and will earn a wacking £70,000 per week and whats triggered this move - not stubbing a cigarette out in the eye of a fellow player, no it was an assault on his team mate putting him in hospital and is still threatening to go to court, West Ham under our own former esteemed leader are possibly going to bid £20 million for former Palarse forward Andy Johnson, the same Andy Johnson who at the beginning of last season moved for £8 million - has he really improved that much or has the gravy boat spilled over with the new tv deal and are the premiership teams splashing out on wages and transfer fees - not for glory but for a position next year behind Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal.

Whatever happened to our beautiful game, now it is a dollars and cents business with loads of roubles thrown in, half wit skilless millionaires are being snapped up by Premier League teams - Marlon Harewood for £4 million - ffsake - leaving players with only heart and commitment for the Championship to contend with and if they ever show a sign of quality they will be snapped up for a reserve game in the FA Premier League, unable to progress unable to leave.

I really hope that we get back at our first attempt, but I also really question if we will ever now be able to compete at top flight level again.

Sunday, 3 June 2007

Rednapps Nuts

Big Herman has already departed to Pompey and now allegedly Matty Holland is on his way, for a two year contract. Now no one would begrudge these two stalwarts of recent Charlton campaigns another couple of seasons on the old Premiership gravy train, but if I was a Pompey fan I would be seriously asking myself HAS HARRY GONE NUTS ... both players are at the end of their careers, their performances during the last two seasons have been below the standard required to hold down a premiership place consistently. Oh yes Holland did well, but lets face it he hardly tore up any trees with his performances, huffing and puffing around the park keeping his shorts persil white and if we had stayed in the Prem more than likely he would be released. One goal from this mid field dynamo all season and lets not forget his miss against Watford that, if scored, would have avoided the need for missibe to be blamed for the final minute dropping of two points. As for Herman, bless his cotton socks, he seemed for most of the season too intent on have an argument with nobody and making crucial mistakes in front of goal to really be considered Prem material anymore. But hey, if Harry is up for it, we can point him in the direction of a few others that would not be considered worthy of the Prem, Marcus Bent would be a great buy Harry come on down mate, he's all yours.

Saturday, 2 June 2007

So its over........

The final Premiership Meeting of the Season was held yesterday, it is at this meeting that relegated clubs handover their shares in the Premier League and the Promoted clubs receive them. Hopefully Richard Murray was able to pass ours over to Derby with a Library Ticket, return 1st June 2008. For those of an age to remember the US TV series "Branded" with Chuck Connors, I have an image of Murray at this meeting in a Charlton Shirt, facing Richard Scudamore who, to a drum beat, rips the Premiership Logo from the sleeves of our shirt and breaks the stick with the Premiership Flag over his knee, before said Murray salutes turns and Marchs into the wilderness of the fizzy pops League.

We now are in the wilderness as our, Sheffield Utd and Watfords existence is neither acknowledged on the Premier League website nor the Football League website. 14 days to the fixture list.

Tuesday, 29 May 2007

London Relegation


As the rumors of players continue, Luke Young to link up with Curbs, Thomas to go to Birmingham, where Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink may turn up, its difficult to find any information that can ease the pain of relegation.

If anything our performance in a fictional London Premier League was worse than the performance in the overall league. Its not that long ago that we were around third after a long period of being unbeaten, but this term our solitary but outstanding win against West Ham, is the only highlight. I suppose that next season we will only be competing in a league of 3 - Palace and QPR being the only London clubs in addition to ourselves - 12 points sorted??


......................Pts
Chelsea...........21
Tottenham.....18
Arsenal...........15
Fulham...........12
West Ham......11
Charlton..........4

Monday, 28 May 2007

New Home For Kish


At some stage over this weekend, as previously mentioned we are expecting to hear about the departure or release of Radostin Kishishev, after being frozen out of our relegation struggle and subject to the one up at Leeds. Its being reported that the new boss at Leicester, Martin "Mad dog" Allen is set to make Kish his first signing (BBC Rumours).

Kish is one of those players you either love or hate. Signed as a right back he was terrible, notably being found out of position in our first season back against Derby resulting in an early two nil deficit, before the management decided he was more of a wing back or midfielder. It was in his mid field role that he played the role of club Jack Russell, running here there and everywhere, often breaking up the oppositions play getting the ball and returning it to them. His best period at the Valley was when Murphy and Smertin were tearing up tree's at the beginning of 2005 / 2006 and he formed the stabilising forcing in the centre until Curbs lost his nerve.

Having spent the end of last season at Leeds where he found his level, it looks like we will come up against him next term, but apart from that, i am sure most Addicks will wish him the best of luck.